Defence: too much is never enough

featuring Greg Jericho and Elinor Johnston-Leek
Leader of the Opposition Peter Dutton and Shadow Minister for Defence Andrew Hastie at a press conference after visiting a defence manufacturing facility in Belmont, Perth, on day 26 of his 2025 Federal Election Campaign in the seat of Swan, Wednesday, April 23, 2025.
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For all the talk of defence spending in the election campaign, much of what Australians hold dear is being left behind.

On this episode of Dollars & Sense, Greg and Elinor discuss the Coalition’s defence spending announcement, why Australia needs bravery from policymakers, and the latest debate between Jim Chalmers and Angus Taylor.

This discussion was recorded on Thursday 24 April 2025 and things may have changed since recording.

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Host: Greg Jericho, Chief Economist, the Australia Institute and Centre for Future Work // @grogsgamut

Host: Elinor Johnston-Leek, Senior Content Producer, the Australia Institute // @elinorjohnstonleek

Show notes:

‘Australia needs more than hollow words about a fair go – we need brave policy-makers’ by Greg Jericho, Guardian Australia (April 2025)

‘The Coalition’s defence plans are a kneejerk, impossible dream when what we need is achievable policy’ by Allan Behm, Guardian Australia (April 2025)

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