The PM has announced big plans for deregulation, but is ‘red tape’ or ‘green tape’ really impeding economic growth or is it necessary to protect us and our environment? In this episode we talk to Executive Director of the Australia Institute Ben Oquist about the protections offered by good regulation.

Host: Ebony Bennett, deputy director of the Australia Institute // @ebony_bennett

Guest: Ben Oquist, executive director of the Australia Institute // @BenOquist

Producer: Lizzie Jack with help from Grace Crivallero

Theme music is by Jonathan McFeat from Pulse and Thrum