Australia and New Zealand have had a lot of success in managing this pandemic, but that has not been the case internationally and we’ve seen a range of responses from international governments. This episode is from one of our ‘Economics of a pandemic’ webinar series, featuring Helen Clark, the former Prime Minister of New Zealand and patron of the Helen Clark Foundation, in conversation with Allan Behm, head of the International and Security Affairs Program.www.tai.org.auHost: Ebony Bennett, deputy director of the Australia Institute // @ebony_bennettGuests:Helen Clark // @HelenClarkNZAllan Behm // @mirandaprorsusProducer: Jennifer MaceyTheme music is by Jonathan McFeat from Pulse and Thrum