We don’t need no Education

Trump has signed an Executive Order that seeks to dismantle the Federal Department of Education – but can he actually do it?
On this episode of After America, Dr Emma Shortis and Angus Blackman discuss Trump administration group chats, Big Pharma’s big whinge, and the history of conservative efforts to dismantle the federal Education department.
This discussion was recorded on Tuesday 25 March 2025 and things may have changed since recording.
Read more from Emma in the latest edition of Australian Foreign Affairs.
Order What’s the Big Idea? 32 Big Ideas for a Better Australia now, via the Australia Institute website.
Host: Emma Shortis, Director, International & Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // @EmmaShortis
Host: Angus Blackman, Producer, the Australia Institute // @AngusRB
Show notes:
‘The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans’ by Jeffrey Goldberg, The Atlantic (March 2025)
Photo: Gage Skidmore/Flickr (CC BY-SA 2.0)
Theme music: Blue Dot Sessions
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