The gas industry’s “huge con”

By taxing Australian resources more effectively, we could not only have a greener economy – but a fairer one as well.
On this special episode of Dollars & Sense, Liam O’Brien from the Australian Council of Trade Unions and Dr Ingrid Burfurd from The Superpower Institute join Dr Richard Denniss to discuss taxing the gas industry more effectively.
This discussion was recorded on Wednesday 29 October 2025 at the Australia Institute’s Revenue Summit at Parliament House in Canberra.
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Guest: Liam O’Brien, Assistant Secretary, Australian Council of Trade Unions // @lbobrien
Guest: Ingrid Burfurd, Carbon Pricing and Policy Lead, The Superpower Institute
Host: Richard Denniss, co-Chief Executive Chief, the Australia Institute // @richarddenniss
Host: Greg Jericho, Chief Economist, the Australia Institute // @grogsgamut
Show notes:
Revenue Summit playlist, The Australia Institute on YouTube (November 2025)
Australia Last: The failure of Australian gas policy by Matthew Saunders and Richard Denniss, The Australia Institute (November 2025)
Theme music: Blue Dot Sessions
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